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([livejournal.com profile] kickthehobbit posted this, and [livejournal.com profile] doctoreon re-posted it, and now it's my turn.)

If you're not pro-choice, and you are vocal and proud about not being pro-choice (including such lines as, "I don't understand how anyone could be pro-choice"), or if you allow discussion to happen in your journal that contains such gems as accusing George Tiller of being a "baby killer" that performed late-term abortions for fun, or allowing awful, awful trolling comments regarding what sluts and whores any woman that would ever have an abortion is?

I AM GOING TO DEFRIEND YOU.

If you want to foster discussion in your journal, fine.

If you are pro-life, and proud of it, but are respectful of those of us that are pro-choice, that's also fine. I won't defriend over either of those.

But if you're going to let people make ignorant-ass comments in your journal about how all abortions are totally wrong and 'oh my God how dare anyone ever get one', and also that George Tiller (who helped people like this and this) was a murderer, not bothering to step in when they start to attack one another or otherwise don't "foster" discussion so much as blindly attack anyone that comments back to them, citing irrelevant court cases in an attempt to prove that late-term abortion happens for reasons other than the mother's life/health being at risk/the fetus having deformities that are incompatible with life . . . that's not OK.

If you're going to let your journal turn into a pro-life circle jerk, then I'm out of here. Because seriously? Don't you fucking even try to play the, "But I am all for women's rights!" card when you're trying to restrict access to abortion.

I'm sorry to have to be the one to tell you this, but the only moral abortion is not your abortion. ALL ABORTION IS MORAL.

Brought to you by [livejournal.com profile] kickthehobbit.

Date: June 2nd, 2009 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raven-moon.livejournal.com
Sorry I spopked you - you are by no means in any danger of going anywhere. As I have said to you before, if more people 'disagreed' like you and I do, with respect, compassion, and mutual caring, the world would be a far better place. Honestly, I don't really have anyone on my wonderful f-list that I would feel this would apply to. (Which is why I love you [singular and plural] so very much!)

My posting it is more about taking a stance, a public, unambiguous stance on the rhetoric that leads to violence. For too many people, as I am sure you know, disagreement means one party must be wrong, and if so, they are then somehow other, inferior, no longer deserving of the same rights and courtesies as those who agree. And while I defend free speech to the utmost degree, there is a point where that kind of speech, speech which makes the 'opposing side' seem somehow less of a citizen, less American, even less human, does lead to violence. Such speech permits it, excuses it, and even encourages it, no matter how much the 'talking heads' express their supposed outrage at the violence they 'never intended.'

Intended or not, the responsibility is there. the responsibility for that shooting and the dozens of others which preceded it lie with those radicals in the pro-life movement, those extremists who moved to suppress the Homeland Security report warning of just this kind of occurrence, those who engage in rhetoric of hate and terrorism.

That's why I posted it, not now or ever for people who hold opinions different from my own, but who, as you said, behave like logical adults, with respect and caring. As I said, if everyone who disagreed with someone on any issue behaved like that - wow - what a wonderful world! :)

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