Luna del'Corvo

Sweetie, It's not abot hate - that part of what I have such a problem with. I am simply done excusing things for the sake of religion, and hate is one of those things. And I do not mean only Christianity, (though that is the one I end up face to face with most often). But I don't think we can continue excusing otherwise reprehensible behavior on grounds of any religion, be it Christian, Muslim, or anything else. Things that societies would not accept under other circumstances are accepted just because the are done on religious grounds. I truly do not believe that as a global society we can keep doing this save at our own peril.

I do think, as I said that religion has a place in the mental and spiritual life of the individual - it cannot continue to operate in the public sphere, however. And I think it is imperative that we take religious belief of any kind out of any kind of public policy.

I would no more 'lay into' a religious person in the way you describe than I would a deeply psychotic individual, but I do not think we can continue to ignore atrocity on the part of either, nor can we allow either to be in charge of making decisions that affect us all.

Note that I do not consider ou to be such an individual - I have always thought you have a degree of perspective on your personal ideas/beliefs and the 'appropriate' range of their applicability that I admire. If there were many more like you, the issue would be moot.

Sadly thought, you are right, fear and insecurity motivate too many in terms of religion. It's self perpetuating, and it is precisely the way that the church(es)/doctrine(s) were devised—to create just such dependence on the power structure. Kept the masses biddable, don't ya know! But that's an entirely different topic. LOL

Indeed - let's do talk soon. *hugs*