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: : : L u n a d e l C o r v o : : : ([personal profile] lunadelcorvo) wrote2010-03-29 11:20 am

How frakkin' dumb can people get?

OK. So a Buddhist Temple here was vandalized, with specifically Christian messages spray painted on the temple and signage, and statues defaced. This is the second time this has happened this year. (Story here and here)

In the comments on both of those stories, one can find statements like "It's not fair to assume the people who did this were Christian." and similar sentiments. Now look, I'm not saying this one act can be laid at the feet of all Christians everywhere. That's a basic fallacy of composition. However, I think it is absolutely fair to assume that it was done by a Christian, with an agenda of intimidation. The messages read "Buddah is in hell" not "Gooks go home." That would certainly seem to indicate that the motive isn't racist, it's not anti-immigrant, it's not an outburst of stress brought on by tough competition for jobs in hard times.

The temple was covered in crosses and sayings like "Christ lives." The motive is religious. Pure and simple. It is one more example of the mindset that this is a Christian country, and 'pagans,' like athiests, are not welcome here in the 'land-of-the-free-to-be-Christian.' However, the more serious problem lies in the immediate leap to defend the obvious religious motivation here.

When we then engage in dialog not about why religiously motivated hate crimes occur and are allowed (even sanctioned, though there has been no sanction, but also no condemnation from area churches in this case), but in attempting to diffuse the issue we ourselves facilitate those very crimes. Regardless of how one chooses to construe the Harris Poll's findings, I think it is quite clear that the rhetoric of violence, rebellion and insurrection in the name of Christianity is on an alarming rise. The 'Tea Party' movement has been proclaimed the 'new face of American democracy,' after all, and Palin is flogging the 'new revolution.'

And that makes this one act of violence significant. it makes every act of violence on religious (or political) grounds significant. We cannot keep excusing this. We cannot keep defending it, or dismissing it as a "few extreme individuals." Let's call a spade a spade, and let's get over our hesitation to call BULLSHIT when apologists try to de-emphasize the role of religion in hate crime.

[identity profile] thewenchywiccan.livejournal.com 2010-03-29 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
That's horrible, and I agree completely with you that we need to stop excusing this, because it only makes it "okay" for the next moron to come along and do it again.

[identity profile] hope-guides-me.livejournal.com 2010-03-29 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I have to agree with the statement that it's not fair to assume a Christian did this. Anyone could have done it. Just because it looks like a Christian done it, doesn't mean a Christian did do it. The person who did this could want you to think that a Christian is responsible.

If a Christian church was vandalized with pentacles and hate messages, I would not assume a Pegan is responsible.

Sometimes, people do things just to be... horrible. I don't think it's fair to blame the Christian religion when anyone could've done it. Once it's proven to be someone "acting in the name of Christ," I'll be right there with you. They should be punished. It should not be overlooked. Hate crimes are unacceptable. For that matter, all crimes are unacceptable.

[identity profile] hope-guides-me.livejournal.com 2010-03-29 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I will also be even more annoyed at the nuts that do things like this "in the name of Christ."

Christ didn't hate, thank you so much. You can't preforms hate crimes in the name of Christ. Ugh.

[identity profile] raven-ap-morgan.livejournal.com 2010-03-29 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Possible that a Christian did it - also possible that someone else did, picking appropriately annoying messages. It's still a religious hate crime, and the local churches should denounce it. Either that or be considered accomplices.

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[identity profile] raven-moon.livejournal.com 2010-03-29 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly - regardless of the personal beliefs of the guy with the spray paint in hand, it is religious intimidation, and THAT is what makes it part of a growing problem.

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[identity profile] sentimental13.livejournal.com 2010-03-29 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I would bet someone (or a few someones) who call themselves Christian did it, but in doing that, I absolutely do not think that the person actually adheres to a system of belief that can be called Christianity. "Love they neighbor as yourself" is pretty high on the Christian list, and vandalism on any religious or spiritual group's property is disrespectful and abhorrent.

[identity profile] donerleg.livejournal.com 2010-03-30 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
Jesus said "Bless those who curse you, do good to those who despitefully use you." "Love your neighbor as yourself" gotta love him.....

[identity profile] lucretiasheart.livejournal.com 2010-03-30 07:04 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you. Very true.

My mother has been a Buddhist since my teens, and though I am not close to her now and did not follow in her footsteps, I was familiar with the temple she went to and her Buddhist friends, who were gentle and kind and TOLERANT of other other paths, including my modern pagan one. In fact, they encouraged my mother to allow me to follow my spiritual bliss my way and she stopped worrying about my alternative religious lifestyle.

*long sigh*

I worry for the future, I really do. I sincerely hope someone starts successfully encouraging sanity again.